4th Dec 1886 Cliftonville 1 Partick Thistle 11 (FA Cup 3rd Round)

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Match Information

					John Hendry; John Marshall; Andrew Johnston
					Cochrane [i]; John Caldwell; Andrew Mackay
Baxter (10-1, 2nd half)					Willie Paul (1-0, 1st half); Willie Paul (2-0, 1st half); Jerry Suter (3-0, 1st half); Willie Paul (4-0, 60 mins); Willie Paul (5-0, 2nd half); Jerry Suter (6-0, 2nd half); Bob Marshall (7-0, 2nd half); Andrew Johnston (8-0, 2nd half); Bob Robertson (9-0, 2nd half); Willie Paul (10-0, 2nd half); Jerry Suter (11-1, 2nd half)
			Gillespie		Andrew Duff			27y, 7m, 24d
			Stewart		John Hendry
			Fred Browne		Walter McLean
			Tom Molyneux		Bob Robertson			21y, 6m, 12d
			Archie Rosbotham		Andrew Milliken			22y, 11m, 4d
			Sam Baxter		Bob Marshall			22y, 1m, 4d
			Allan Elleman		John Young [ii]			23y, 9m, 10d
			McPherson		Willie Paul			20y, 9m, 27d
			Barry		John Marshall			36y, 8m, 3d
			Dobbin		Andrew Johnston			21y, 1m, 22d
			Willie Turner		Jerry Suter			23y, 6m, 1d
								24y, 5m, 15d

notes

Thistle received a 4th Round bye after this victory. We go with the extensive account which was reported in the BNL. Our feeling is that the Belfast report would be “closest to the action” and more likely to be accurate. It also gives us the half-time score and includes the Cliftonville scorer. The OH differs by 1 scorer; crediting Willie Paul with 4 goals (as opposed to the BNL's 5) and John Young with 1 goal (as opposed to the BNL who do not credit him at all).

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Match Report

TTA report

“Large pools of water covered the ground” (BNL). Outplayed Cliftonville's only consolation came at 10-0 when “Duff…tired of doing nothing, left his charge” (GH). It was a personal triumph for Paul who scored 5, and Suter (3). The only time that Scottish and Irish teams met in the FA Cup.

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Belfast Newsletter, 6th December, 1886

Stats Watch

ONE FOR THE RECORD BOOKS

● Cliftonville become the first Northern Irish side to play Thistle.

● Northern Ireland (by modern-day definition) becomes the third country to provide opponents for Thistle.

● Cliftonville's record loss.

● Cliftonville become the 32nd club to play Partick Thistle in competitive action.

ongoing sequences:

● 10 consecutive quoted competitive appearances (not known to be broken) for Andrew Duff & John Hendry, 10th Nov 1883 to date. (Longest run since: Jerry Suter - 12 games, 9th Sep 1882 to 24th Oct 1885. Joint club-record: Jack Beattie, 17 games - 5th Apr 1879 to 13th Sep 1884 & George Leckie, 17 games - 5th Apr 1879 to 10th Nov 1883.)

Stats Watch adheres to our stated definitions of League, League Max, Major Competitive, Competitive or All Games. Where there is no written qualification, you should presume that the Stat in question is compiled from the All Games criteria.

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